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Scott's posted more -- a response to our reponses.
Lord . . .
I started a short response here, just to point people to the comments on Scott's new post, and George's addition to his original post, and, more importantly, the lively comments there, which have become akin to a chat room.
But my short response became longer and longer, as I kept reading the comments from Scott and others piling up, and my attitude kept changing, from disgusted, tired anger, to peevishness, to amusement, and with the last few comments, to just plain disgust.
It's not worth pursuing in this form anymore, but it's made me think a bit more on the qualities of school bullies and grifters (both of which I have personal experience with), and I should have more to say on that in relation to Scott's supposed experiment. Maybe I can canniballize something out of what I wrote.
In any case, most of what I wanted to say has already been dealt with in the comments to Scott's new post -- thank George Hunka, Joshua James, Don R. Hall, Ben Ellis, and John Devore (and a couple others) for that -- and again in the update/comments at George's blog -- George and Joshua, now joined by Alison Croggon (who always seems to cut to the point), continuing the good work there.
So, if this actually holds any possible interest for you any more (and I'll understand if it doesn't), check out Scott's and George's new entries and especially the comments following. Scott's responses in particular convinced me not to pursue this in the same manner -- it's pointless. Isaac also has some final comments, and the comments to his "Quick Note" are also to be looked at, if your interest goes even further.
I am now a lot happier that I posted my long rant before, however. Earlier, I had worried a little bit that I was off-base. Now I know I was not. Trying to engage in discussion with someone whose idea of of a useful intellectual exercise is apparently "Let me see . . . if I punch someone in the face, will they be angry, and will some of them try to punch me back?" is a no-starter. I thought he wasn't a troll, given his history, apparently I was wrong.
Lord . . .
I started a short response here, just to point people to the comments on Scott's new post, and George's addition to his original post, and, more importantly, the lively comments there, which have become akin to a chat room.
But my short response became longer and longer, as I kept reading the comments from Scott and others piling up, and my attitude kept changing, from disgusted, tired anger, to peevishness, to amusement, and with the last few comments, to just plain disgust.
It's not worth pursuing in this form anymore, but it's made me think a bit more on the qualities of school bullies and grifters (both of which I have personal experience with), and I should have more to say on that in relation to Scott's supposed experiment. Maybe I can canniballize something out of what I wrote.
In any case, most of what I wanted to say has already been dealt with in the comments to Scott's new post -- thank George Hunka, Joshua James, Don R. Hall, Ben Ellis, and John Devore (and a couple others) for that -- and again in the update/comments at George's blog -- George and Joshua, now joined by Alison Croggon (who always seems to cut to the point), continuing the good work there.
So, if this actually holds any possible interest for you any more (and I'll understand if it doesn't), check out Scott's and George's new entries and especially the comments following. Scott's responses in particular convinced me not to pursue this in the same manner -- it's pointless. Isaac also has some final comments, and the comments to his "Quick Note" are also to be looked at, if your interest goes even further.
I am now a lot happier that I posted my long rant before, however. Earlier, I had worried a little bit that I was off-base. Now I know I was not. Trying to engage in discussion with someone whose idea of of a useful intellectual exercise is apparently "Let me see . . . if I punch someone in the face, will they be angry, and will some of them try to punch me back?" is a no-starter. I thought he wasn't a troll, given his history, apparently I was wrong.
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Date: 2006-08-10 04:24 am (UTC)From: (Anonymous)